Rangers @ Thrashers 3/12
So what's your call?
I call a 3 to 4 goal win... just to make us believe for a little while, before going on another 3 game slump next week.
I call a 3 to 4 goal win... just to make us believe for a little while, before going on another 3 game slump next week.
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Permalink Reply by Biscuit on -
stolen from Jim Breuer:
“They suck. It’s like being in love with an alcoholic. It’s like, you constantly defend her, and people are like, ‘Dude, your alcoholic friend is a mess,’ and you’re like, ‘Nah, you don’t know her like I do.’”
The Atlanta Alcoholics. Don't leave them. They promise they'll do better. Next year they'll get some help. You'll see.
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Permalink Reply by Dj Nowhere on -
Man, how long is this streak going to get? This team has to actually get better again at some point right? I'm not just talking about this season, but for the rest of their existence. Ugggghhhhh
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Permalink Reply by Sam on -
This ain't no "streak", people...welcome to the post-trade bounce, "building-with-youth", expansion-like Thrashers.
Beaten 5-2 by a mediocre Rangers performance. Good individual efforts (and they were there) can only elevate a team so far. An inadequate game plan never gets a team into the post-season. Moose only has so many tricks up his sleeve. And I've said it before: you don't lose a 30-40 goal scorer and not be a worse team for it. Fact.
Anderson's offering nothing. Waddell's a 10-year bust. They took the deepest Thrashers team coming out of training camp and mismanaged them to a really sorry state: too low for playoffs, but maybe too high for a top-5 draft pick.
Kovy?...well, he had a 3-point night vs Sid. As the Thrash bust, Kovy's finding his groove.
And Slava Kozlov? The guy who got an assist on the Thrashers' ONLY goal vs Columbus?...oh yeah, he was scratched again tonight.
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Permalink Reply by DanTheMan on -
I certainly agree that this is not where i saw this team a month into the season. Certainly not Kovy-less.
I also agree about Kovy. I was one of them suggesting we pay him what he wants and then go from there and see where that leads us 1-2 or 3 years down the road. It didn't happen. Now we simply rely on young talent. And the gamble is... it may or may not work out.
As for Kozlov, i still like the guy but i can't wait to see him go. All the sudden you're counting an assist on a fluke goal and give Kozlov credit for it? It's not serious. Kozlov has not played to the level he used to this year. Maybe we were spoiled a bit last year. Maybe he should have suffered that drop a few years ago but he didn't. This year was a significant drop down the ladder for Kozlov and White. You can have the will and all the experience in the world, if you lose half a step on everybody, you're screwed. We can see it very well with Chelios.
As it is, the team does not look good going through the end of the season. Hopefully we can take care of our UFA's when other teams are busy in the playoffs. Make a few offers, retain a few guys... mostly Kubina, Armstrong and Afinogenov for the right price. I really want Kubina. I can do away with the others. Then will come July 1st. This off season will be the most crucial one in a long time. Last year was important to please Kovalchuk. This year will be important... to build a team... or what would resemble a team.
Sam said:This ain't no "streak", people...welcome to the post-trade bounce, "building-with-youth", expansion-like Thrashers.
Beaten 5-2 by a mediocre Rangers performance. Good individual efforts (and they were there) can only elevate a team so far. An inadequate game plan never gets a team into the post-season. Moose only has so many tricks up his sleeve. And I've said it before: you don't lose a 30-40 goal scorer and not be a worse team for it. Fact.
Anderson's offering nothing. Waddell's a 10-year bust. They took the deepest Thrashers team coming out of training camp and mismanaged them to a really sorry state: too low for playoffs, but maybe too high for a top-5 draft pick.
Kovy?...well, he had a 3-point night vs Sid. As the Thrash bust, Kovy's finding his groove.
And Slava Kozlov? The guy who got an assist on the Thrashers' ONLY goal vs Columbus?...oh yeah, he was scratched again tonight.
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Permalink Reply by Biscuit on
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This team is far too talented to be where they are. As it is assembled they should be a 5th to 7th seed in the playoffs.
Confidence, chemistry, execution, and team play (or being on the same page) is all a factor of preparation. Our preparation has failed. That's coaching and management. I believe Sam is using Kozlov as a specific example and not an over all excuse.
This collection of individuals wear a standard issue jersey and play with a vague purpose. On paper they have the skills. On the ice they show the ability and the heart at times. But they are fragile. Fragile because they know far too well what happens with more failure. It breeds more changes. Failure brings more meetings about overall goals and specific individual lapses. It should be the other way around.
We lack chemistry because we lack partnerships; constantly changing multiple lines - D and Forward, to overcome the next expected failure by changing what failed last. We lack consistency because we prepare inconsistently. Stop fixing the last failure. It's over. It's done. Analyzing past mistakes is looking in the wrong direction. Prepare for the next opportunity and allow your players to seize it. Analyze your opposition's weakness and formulate a positive plan of attack to which each partnership knows their role. Even a good system must be tweaked and refined to perform well against different teams, circumstances and it's own predictable repetition. But you make those changes small. You make them for specific reasons. You prepare properly to execute a forward focused plan.
Practice in itself gives you nothing. Poor preparation teaches you to perform badly. Practice must be performed perfectly and through perfect practice will you achieve positive results. It is for this reason I consider our current coaching staff to be the poorest performer on the ice this season.
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Permalink Reply by TwistedWrister82 on -
Sam said:Anderson's offering nothing. Waddell's a 10-year bust. They took the deepest Thrashers team coming out of training camp and mismanaged them to a really sorry state: too low for playoffs, but maybe too high for a top-5 draft pick.
Kovy?...well, he had a 3-point night vs Sid. As the Thrash bust, Kovy's finding his groove.
And Slava Kozlov? The guy who got an assist on the Thrashers' ONLY goal vs Columbus?...oh yeah, he was scratched again tonight.
Deepest Team? Haha you must have had Kovy/Kozlov giving you back massages all season long.
Kovy finally had ONE good game in his Devils uniform. His goal against Fleury shouldn't have counted b/c Zubrus whacked Fleury on the glove as he tried to catch Ilya's shot. He got stoned on a penalty shot and made a few turnovers.
Kozlov got a lucky assist and did NOTHING the whole game. I thought he was having a good game on his first 2 shifts, blocked a couple of shots and made some good passes/shots but then it went downhill after that. He did just enough to show Anderson that he cared to some degree, but then Anderson got the picture and benched him today.
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Permalink Reply by TwistedWrister82 on
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Biscuit: CONFIDENCE doesn't come from preparation. It's all a mental thing. Right now the Thrashers are playing worse everyday and they're playing like it's next month.
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Permalink Reply by Biscuit on
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Confidence ONLY comes from preparation. Confidence doesn't come from searching for answers. And searching isn't preparation. Trust that you won't be thrown under a bus if you don't immediately score a goal and have a phenomenal game. Trust that your leadership knows what they're doing. Trust that you aren't throwing away your career in a bad situation. That trust is reinforced and built through quality repetition and clearly defined expectations.
The only defined role with clear expectations we've ever had is that the 4th line is a shut down line whose parts have remained consistent. Boults, Thorb, Reasoner/Slater. 4 guys who for most of the year have known exactly who they are, what they are supposed to do, how much time they'll be given to accomplish it and when they will be allowed to do so. It should be no surprise that these guys consistently and confidently get their jobs done.
Other clearly defined roles: Enstrom is our top D with lots of ice time and power play minutes. He provides an offensive spark from the back line with a green light to join the rush. Antropov parks his big butt in front of the net, feeds the scoring wingers and hustles back to play solid 2-way hockey. These 2 guys know their roles and play them perfectly in my opinion. Enstrom is in a bit of a slump right now but that happens. That's when other guys need to pick it up.
Everybody else is in a big bag that gets shuffled and misused. Kane's line found a spark and his broken foot caused some problems. Running everything through Kovy and then losing him of course caused a huge hole. But every coach in the league deals with issues throughout a year. I don't believe we deal with things in a forward thinking manner. I think we look back and collapse under the weight of failure.
I'm also peeved and upset about another lack luster season of underperformance. Especially because this team should have never underperformed.
TwistedWrister82 said:Biscuit: CONFIDENCE doesn't come from preparation. It's all a mental thing. Right now the Thrashers are playing worse everyday and they're playing like it's next month.
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Permalink Reply by TwistedWrister82 on
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I think the PP can be run through Kubina, who has just about a heavy shot as Kovy did on the point. If Toby would shoot more anytime he'd be more of a threat on the ice.
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